looks like down about 22 per share. let's look at all the various indices. not a good way to start training for the holidays. there we go, we are all in the red. the biggest hit is the nasdaq, the tech heavy nasdaq down all day. even when the dow was up, the nasdaq down, tech stocks taking a beating today. shibani: weak sales sending retailers and they read it today. so the high-end names among the worst performers. coach, michael kors, not holding up in today's market. david: even the homebuilders could not get a bounce. could it possibly be some profit taking? up tremendously the past three to six months so perhaps that is what is going on. some prices are looking down a bit after having gone up tremendously even the overall trend is good for homebuilding but for every reason stocks are down today. we're getting dangerously close going over the fiscal cliff which means taxes go up for everybody who pays taxes but what else does it mean for you -@and for the economy? the chief of staff on george w. bush council of economic advisors, she thinks we're probabl